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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 19:39:40 GMT -5
Cool site. Thanks for this. I would love nothing more than to talk with you sometime!
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 20:20:22 GMT -5
I feel the collapse of the economy coming soon. Unemployment is up. Now the gov't is getting in the Healthcare business. They have to much power, so we will suffer. I have studied our current gov't situation and come to the conclusion that this 'recession' was purposely induced by the gov't, just as the 1920's depression was. They have a bigger agenda and it is the responsibility of every American to educate themselves on this. Its not a conspiracy theory. These things that have happened are fact. If they wanted to, the gov't could help out every American that is struggling, but they choose to leave us to our own demise, helping only those who will not help themselves.
As for the economy, I have different view, one where no one works for money, they work for the passion in their hearts. This can only be accomplished when there is unity amongst peoples. Everyone will have to be working together for a common good, for humanity, and not for the sake of collecting a paycheck.
I think if more people realized what our government has done by allow a central bank to control the currency in this country, they would be outraged. Our gov't borrows money from this central bank (the "Federal" Reserve) with interest. How are they (actually, the citizens) ever supposed to pay this loan back? We can't. Its a never-ending debt and that's slavery. Also, I'm sure most don't know that the income tax they file on April 15th doesn't even apply to them. And so the story continues...
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 20:28:44 GMT -5
Papermoon - Since you do not believe in working for pay I surely hope you are not collecting food stamps, welfare and medicaid at the expense of those of us that are working and paying taxes. At the current moment, I do have a job and I get paid in Federal Notes, also known as Monopoly money. But I am in the process of converting. Its not an easy transition. I can tell you that I will NOT be filing a 1040. Income tax supports terrorism. Do some homework. If you don't like paying for others, maybe you should rethink your situation. Stop doing what you don't like. You have control. Its your life. I guess you could say I'm on Parental Welfare.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2009 20:45:43 GMT -5
Interesting, I think though you might mistake being a slave to one's wallet to being a slave to one's Dreams for some people. As far as working, everyone starts somewhere, wether it be working at home not making money, or working at a job making money, either way advancing towards their dreams and aspirations. Don't be so Jaded that you lop all of us into one category, you risk becoming like those people in positions of power that we all talk about. Tolerance is one of the basic principle's of this country and they have forgotten it, don't make their mistake. It's no one's fault everyone's dreams are different. Family is nice, but when you find someone, most of the time unless they are agreeable, you move a bit away from them. Mother nature does not provide ALL. Never get that fact twisted. Now I am not saying you shouldn't pursue your dream of living in a hut and off the land, but someone will have to pay the taxes, unless you move to a country where they don't require it. By all means have at it. Please, list for me the things nature cannot provide for you. Besides you basic necessities. This should be interesting. I don't mean to lump everyone together. I just wish materialism wasn't the norm. Ah, now that you clarified that with "basic necessities" as that wasn't in your original post, i can clarify. If you have certain conditions, nature cannot provide for you, esp. if you have certain dehabilitating diseases. If you had said basic the first time, I would have not commented on it, but you said "ALL".
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 20:50:13 GMT -5
What kind of debilitating diseases? Nature may not be able to give you infinite life, but I'm sure there are remedies to ease the suffering of debilitating diseases.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2009 20:52:40 GMT -5
What kind of debilitating diseases? Nature may not be able to give you infinite life, but I'm sure there are remedies to easy the suffering of debilitating diseases. Colon cancer. lung cancer, severe allergies, heart disease.
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 21:01:24 GMT -5
A lot of diseases, especially the ones you listed, could be avoided if we ate a better diet and had better air to breathe. There are plants in nature that can give you relief from pain. I know its controversial to some people, but marijuana is used extensively by cancer and chemo patients to help encourage appetite and ease suffering. But you know, the government just won't let people get natural relief. No they want to pump us full of synthetic drugs that do more harm to us than the actual symptoms we're trying to relieve.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2009 21:14:14 GMT -5
A lot of diseases, especially the ones you listed, could be avoided if we ate a better diet and had better air to breathe. There are plants in nature that can give you relief from pain. I know its controversial to some people, but marijuana is used extensively by cancer and chemo patients to help encourage appetite and ease suffering. But you know, the government just won't let people get natural relief. No they want to pump us full of synthetic drugs that do more harm to us than the actual symptoms we're trying to relieve. They can sometimes be avoided, but the fact is they have occured since ancient times, so if your gonna get it, your going to get it, even nature cannot stop it, since nature starts it. Hence why there are procedures to remedy them to a point. Even MJ, being used as a pain reliever to what nature started(cancer), which can be cured via chemo(not nature provided) which MJ can help as being a pain reliever to that procedure.
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 21:26:01 GMT -5
I think bodily diseases can be cured through our minds. I believe we have the ability to heal ourselves, in a lot of cases. We are led to believe we need a doctor to cure us when we possess the power within ourselves.
In addition to our environment, I think our bodies create diseases when our minds are not at ease. Just a thought.
Also, chemo is not always the answer to cancer, just the most widely used and most accepted option.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2009 21:31:37 GMT -5
I think bodily diseases can be cured through our minds. I believe we have the ability to heal ourselves, in a lot of cases. We are led to believe we need a doctor to cure us when we possess the power within ourselves. In addition to our environment, I think our bodies create diseases when our minds are not at ease. Just a thought. I don't agree, but I respect your opinion.
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 21:38:55 GMT -5
Why do you think Native American were able to cure themselves? They were in tune with nature and knew the cures to the ailments that affected them. Ultimately, humans are nature. We cannot be separated from it. Although the more we try, the worse off we will be. We should respect nature and not try to control her and take more than we need. Then she will be able to provide for us.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2009 21:44:37 GMT -5
Why do you think Native American were able to cure themselves? They were in tune with nature and knew the cures to the ailments that affected them. Ultimately, humans are nature. We cannot be separated from it. Although the more we try, the worse off we will be. Why do you think so many of them died as well? Look at both sides, don't look at it like a one way road. Admin can you separate this thread. It has been unknowingly hijacked.
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 21:46:34 GMT -5
I thought they died due to diseases brought over from England. Not to mention mass extermination by the good old US of A. Doing what we do best, I guess.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2009 21:48:20 GMT -5
I thought they died due to diseases brought over from England. Not to mention mass extermination by the good old US of A. Doing what we do best, I guess. Think about the diseases part and the natural cure part, given what you have stated, it should not have affected them. But I am talking about before the europeans came over.
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Post by Laura on Aug 6, 2009 21:50:16 GMT -5
would you like to go to the chat room?
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