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Post by dobbie on Oct 11, 2009 6:23:25 GMT -5
Can someone tell me how many deputies are on duty at a time? What do they do? I hardly ever see one. IF you needed one I wonder if you could get them. I had a car run up behind me Fri. evening,bright lights on loud music, just careless driving. But If you call in to report something like this it is ignored.  |
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Post by keithward on Oct 11, 2009 7:17:18 GMT -5
Can someone tell me how many deputies are on duty at a time? What do they do? I hardly ever see one. IF you needed one I wonder if you could get them. I had a car run up behind me Fri. evening,bright lights on loud music, just careless driving. But If you call in to report something like this it is ignored. FIRST OFF NO CALL IS EVER IGNORED WITH ANY AGENCY..... I can't speak for the Sheriff or the Sheriff's department but I am a law enforcement officer and can say the question you ask has several factors to consider. Call response times for this type of call very for certain reasons. Priority, Availability, Mobility, caller contact, time of day, and most important LOCATION. PRIORITY If you call 911 with a complaint of a vehicle driving with loud music and riding your bumper and there is a fight in progress at another location at the same time, resources will be directed to the fight and not your call. They will get to it when available. AVAILABILITY Same complaint but all officers are busy on other calls like above the agency is not going to risk officer safety to pull one guy off to answer your call immediately. They will get to it when available. MOBILITY If you call in this same complaint going north on 53 north of the Cherry Lake cross roads the chance of a deputy getting there before the car gets into Georgia or makes it home are slim. But if you are headed south on 53 south of the cross roads toward Madison then there is a good chance a deputy or city police officer can intercept. CALLER CONTACT If you call in this type of complaint and are willing to stay on the phone and give dispatch up to the minute info on location and direction of travel then deputies know where to go. If you call in and say a car is driving reckless south on 53 and then pull into your driveway and don't care anymore how are they supposed to know if the car turned off and what the current conditions are. Other wise They will get to it when available. TIME OF DAY This call at 10 am would have a whole lot better chance of a deputy not being on a priority call and able to respond immediately than say at 10 pm when all the restless people are out. Other wise They will get to it when available. LOCATION No matter how hard they try agencies cant have deputies in the right place at the right time. So even considering all the above factors if the nearest deputy is 25 miles away then there is little chance they will make it in time. Even if the Sheriff had every deputy on the force out at the same time it is Murphy's law that no one will be where you need them. Laws of nature determine this and no matter how hard agencies try it always trumps them a lot of the time. In the same token there might only be one deputy out and he is sitting a quarter mile from you looking for something to do when you call. In the end this type of call is a craps game for the caller on weather is ends with enforcement action. Other wise They will get to it when available. AND LAST NO CALL IS EVER IGNORED WITH ANY AGENCY..... |
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Post by elmerspear on Oct 11, 2009 8:16:01 GMT -5
keithward-
Just to set the facts straight - about a year ago my wife called the sheriff's department to report that we were having gunfire outside our house at 8pm (dark). One hour later I called home (I was in Clermont giving a speech) and my wife told me what was going on and I called our sorry ... sheriff of the time at home and he told me that he would send out a deputy. ONE HOUR AND FORTY FIVE MINUTES AFTER MY WIFE CALLED IN A GUNFIRE REPORT A DEPUTY SHOWED UP TO SEE IF MY WIFE WAS STILL ALIVE. In mobility you address location and response and so that you know we live about half way between the Cherry Lake Cross Roads and the north end of Madison.
We were told that a deputy had driven by and saw nothing “out of the ordinary” so he kept on going. Now remember, my wife could have been shot to death and when the deputy rolled by he would not have seen anything “out of the ordinary.” Right after my wife made the call she called a friend of ours and he showed up armed and ready to protect my wife. According to my wife he arrived in about 5 minutes – so quick that my wife did not get a chance to open our electric gate so he parked his pickup outside our gate and walked in. Then supposedly a deputy drove by and saw nothing “out of the ordinary.”
A pickup parked in our driveway outside a locked electric gate would have made me wonder if something was going on but then we were dealing with the past sheriff’s department. Later our then sheriff told me that the neighbors that live right across the road where shooting at a snake -- in pitch black atmosphere. Go figure. You stated that “NO CALL IS EVER IGNORED WITH ANY AGENCY” and while you might be right what dobbie was saying was also right. If someone is shooting outside your house and it takes an hour and forty five minutes before you see a deputy you certainly could be dead.
Recently we called the sheriff’s department and within about five minutes Deputy Mike Maurice and his dog arrived and about five minutes later Sheriff Ben Stewart should up - he said he was on his way home and wanted to make sure everything was ok. Today, both June and Elmer Spear have a lot of respect for our current sheriff’s department – and we know that they are operating with a lot less funds then under the previous administration, To dobbie – maybe the response time seems slow but I assure you that when they get to you your concerns will be addressed.
Elmer Spear
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Post by papredoll on Oct 11, 2009 13:44:44 GMT -5
Can someone tell me how many deputies are on duty at a time? What do they do? I hardly ever see one. IF you needed one I wonder if you could get them. I had a car run up behind me Fri. evening,bright lights on loud music, just careless driving. But If you call in to report something like this it is ignored. Dobbie-Have some common sense. Do some research before you spout off. Here's an idea: Stop being an arm chair quarterback and go to a meeting. Another idea: Go see Sheriff Ben Stewart and ask him why he isn't doing his job. I hear he likes when ignorant people come in and ask him that. |
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Post by dobbie on Oct 11, 2009 13:49:50 GMT -5
The law is, correct me if i'm wrong. No gun shall be discharged within is it a 1000 ft of a dwelling or even on a public road. A gun is not suppose to be loaded on a public road. So shooting snakes on a public road is unlawful. May need to call FWC next time a shooting occurrs.
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Post by dobbie on Oct 11, 2009 17:49:38 GMT -5
By the way, anyone passing through greenville has a free pass to do whatever, loud music, speeding, throwing down trash. because there is no law over there. Thats why I asked where are all the deputies, I guess they patroling I 10. The FHP can't.
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Post by geegee on Oct 11, 2009 19:10:42 GMT -5
Dobbie did you see the article on the guns and pot that were seized in Greenville this past week by our Sheriff's department?? Please give them a little credit!!!
Why not ask if you can ride with a deputy one night and find out for yourself just what they go through. Try for a Friday night in this dry county and see what they are up against. Then you will have every right to judge, condemn and crucify them.
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Post by mikek on Oct 12, 2009 9:56:54 GMT -5
dobbie,
I needed a deputy the other night in greenville, on short notice, and one showed up exactly 2 minutes after calling.
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Post by papredoll on Oct 12, 2009 15:23:14 GMT -5
dobbie, I needed a deputy the other night in greenville, on short notice, and one showed up exactly 2 minutes after calling. What took them so long? ;D I start whining at 1:45 seconds. |
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Post by dobbie on Oct 12, 2009 20:01:57 GMT -5
well its good to hear that you received a prompt response.
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Post by canadianbacon on Oct 22, 2009 20:00:06 GMT -5
OK I don't get on here very often obviously cause I am a little late coming in to this topic. As the wife of a deputy I say thank you to all the positive posts on this thread. Now as for the negative. It is very important to me that I get home from work before my husband goes on duty to kiss him and tell him I love him. I worry about him responding to a call alone in some far corner of the county, I worry about him pulling over some stranger on the interstate, I worry about him trying to get to a call from one end of the county to the other as fast as he can. I could go on about what I worry about every time he leaves the house but I am sure you get the idea. It aggravates me to no end when I hear someone who does not risk their life everyday to protect the public complain because someones music was too loud or they were being tailgated and there were no cops around. This is not New York, there are not dozens of cops on the street at any given time. I am sure even in New York sometimes the response time is not ideal for every situation. Do you even realize how big this county is to patrol. If you can do it better by all means get in the academy become a LEO and do it! I find it ridiculous that Keithward had to break it down the way he did to explain this. I wonder if the same people who wonder where the cops are when they need them to control someones volume would also complain about the tax money spent to keep 20 cops and deputies on duty in Madison 24/7. As for having a presence in Greenville I know for a fact how much time my husband spends over there and it is considerable. I also have to travel the interstate on a regular basis and am thankful for any and all LE presence no matter the agency to ensure it is just a little bit safer.
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Post by elmo on Oct 23, 2009 8:53:21 GMT -5
Dobbie or anyone else for that matter, you go out and put on a Bullet Proof Vest, Hot polyester uniform, and then strap on 15 to 30 lbs of equipment around your waist, and put your life on the line every time you step out of your car for around 15.00 an hour starting pay in Florida and then complain about someone not doing the job you think they need to be doing.
I'm with you Canadianbacon, it burns me big time when someone starts complaining about an officer or law enforcement agency not doing their job, you people have no clue until you walk in their shoes and live their families fears every day!!!!
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Post by canadianbacon on Oct 23, 2009 18:38:00 GMT -5
Dobbie or anyone else for that matter, you go out and put on a Bullet Proof Vest, Hot polyester uniform, and then strap on 15 to 30 lbs of equipment around your waist, and put your life on the line every time you step out of your car for around 15.00 an hour starting pay in Florida and then complain about someone not doing the job you think they need to be doing. I'm with you Canadianbacon, it burns me big time when someone starts complaining about an officer or law enforcement agency not doing their job, you people have no clue until you walk in their shoes and live their families fears every day!!!! Thank you elmo. I had many friends in LE while living in South Florida and after seeing the anguish their families went through when the worst happened I swore I would never marry a cop. Well then I fell in love with one. There are nights when my husband is at work that my last thought before falling asleep is "please don't let there be a knock on the door tonight." So many people complain about LE and the media loves to show the alleged "bad cops" on TV. Funny how you never hear about LEO's changing tires on the side of the interstate for a mom traveling alone with her children, a cop comforting a child after a traumatic experience with a teddy bear from his/her trunk (did you know many LEO's carry toys in their vehicles for that very reason), staying by the side of a woman whose husband of 50 years just passed away until her family gets there, giving demonstrations in schools to hundreds of children and patiently answering all of their questions no matter how silly they are, answering their door at home no matter the hour to help out a neighbor with a problem, standing in the pouring rain with their heads bowed respectfully to stop traffic while the funeral procession of a complete stranger slowly drives by, or the hours spent finishing paperwork, doing research for a case, time in court, not to mention the emotions they have to hide during a particularly hard call and then deal with later. LEO's do not go in to this line of work for the money that is a fact. I think I have made my point. Until these naysayers walk in my husband's shoes or any other LEO out there they have NO RIGHT to judge and they certainly have no idea what life is like for them or their families. Nobody wants to see a cop until they need one and then the cops don't get there fast enough. |
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Post by geegee on Oct 23, 2009 20:01:53 GMT -5
Wow Canadianbacon what a testimony!!!! I happen to know your husband and know that he loves being a police officer and the job that he has. You just said it all and we should support our police officers and their families all that we can.
I think that the critics ought to know that the Madison county sheriff's office is operating with $500,000 less annually than 2 years ago and they are spread pretty thin. I for one am very grateful for the service I get when I need a LEO. (I just figured out what that rmeant).
Thank you for all that you go through for your husband to serve us ungrateful bunch.
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